Astrotheological and astrological incompatibility versus compatibility with the Tychos model

[Atonementftw]

I figured it would be interesting to discuss astrotheology, and it´s historical roots in particular (and not so much all kinds of contemporary astrological or other astrotheological beliefs). Reasons for such a discussion is that astronomy was mixed with pseudo scientific beliefs in pre-modern periods, as well as religions beliefs. I´m interested in these subjects labeled “humanities” and “Social Studies” in the academy, (even though I think these major orientations within today´s science is problematic and partly based on deception just like todays astronomy).

I reject new age beliefs in astrology and the like, but I think that by exposing frauds it might shine light on scientific history as well. However there is aspects of astrotheology and astrology that could fill a purpose. For example H. A. Ray’s book “Stars : an other way to se them” from 1951. This book outlines how astrological signs can be drawn in a fashion that they depict what the name of the astrological sign is named after. The point of that is to learn navigating the night sky. David Mathisen has further elaborated on the works af H. A. Ray, and points out similarities between ancient mythologies and the forms of the astrological signs in the night sky.

Most, if not all religions associate the astronomical objects (planets and moons) in our geo axial binary system with deities. It’s interesting to note that the name of the weekdays in various languages is often based on “the seven planets” (i.e. Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn) that was known prior to the invention of the telescope around 1608. These “planets” was often understood in antropomorphic terms, like for instance the Moon and Venus being associated with femininity, for a number of reasons, such as periodicity, paleness and the like. Mars red colour and seamingly unpredictable movement lead to association with war and masculinity. Jupiter was imagined as the ruler of the deities due to it’s brightness and so on.

There is also other aspects of astrotheology that holds historical significance. For example the 12 zodiacs that is the PVP-orbit devided into 12 astrological signs that is aligned in a circle shape around our binary system (and can be viewed in tychosium 3D). Some scientists believe the bull cults (in ancient Crete, Egypt and Mesopotamia) to be derived from the age of Taurus for instance. This notion arguably has political implications to this day, now that new age is widely pushed and a collective cause is being rolled out to unite the religious institutions of the world into a one world new age religion. New age alluding to the approching/emerging age of Aquarius (that lasts for 25433 / 12 years). An other reason for discussing the subject is that heliocentrism might very well have connection to sun worshiping beliefs. That is indicated in a number of ways. Copernicus lived in the renaissance when hermeticism was widely spread, and renaissance humaism was a new philosophy at the time reviving pre-christan beliefs. In the powerfull civilisations of the past pharaos and ceasars were believed to be incarnations of the sun deities, and sun motives can still be seen in a variety of religions as associated with divinity.

It is some suggestions on subjects that can be discussed in regarding this topic, because failure in moral and reasoning often wise is due to such superstition and wishful thinking. However for me these subjects have inspired me to learn more about the science of the day.

[MUU]

@Atonementftw

(that lasts for 25433 / 12 years)

Probably a typo but 25344/12years

BTW welcome and excellent info. Thanks.

[Atonementftw]

Thanks, you´re right!

[Atonementftw]

What about listing all space hoaxes, and it´s parallels to occultism and magic?

• Heliocentrism; the luciferian belief that the sun is “god” and in the middle.
• Quantum mysticism; the hermetic philosophical axiom of “as above, so below.” In Hermeticism every human are believed to be a “microcosm” encapsulated in a “macrocosm.” That is to say, humans and the universe alike is both divine (or rather magical). This axiom implies a subjectivist view on existential questions. That is to say, everybody has there own moral and logic in there unique “microcosm” that supposedly make our human centered logic and moral “divine.” Regarding quantum mysticism we are conditioned to believe that particles behave differently depending on our (subjective) observation, as if particles cared about our businesses. An idea that is not actually a theory, but rather an bizarre hypotheses without anything indicating it´s likelihood.
• Space travel; the megalomaniac cause to exceed heaven, and build a Tower of Babal-like technocracy.
• The Big Bang theory; a repackaging of the catholic doctrine “Ex Nihillo.” A idea about matter emanating magically out of nothing. Absurdly claimed to have happened 13,7 billion yeas ago (for those familiar with the gematric significance of the number 137). Replacing the belief in a Creator held by most people prior to these doctrines (in hermeticism, aristotelianism, platonism, judaism, christianity and islam for instance).
• Dark matter / dark energy; negativity in general about the material world (similar to the buddist and gnostic dualistic hatred of matter).
• The Pansperma Theory; the devilish claim by the nutwork about life deriving from alien life forms creating humanity.
• Aliens; a deception manufactured to make the victims of i indoctrination to idol worship high ranking money magicians / cult members. Paradoxically postulating humanity to be both divine (or rather magical) and a genetically modified sub species to supposed aliens (the nutworkers). (Simultaneously strengthening the genetics hoax / DNA hoax, Compare the dubble-helix with the occult symbol of the Caducéus).
• UFO:s a propaganda campain to cement the magical notion of engines being able to work in space.
• Black holes; a magic whitewashing attempt to do away with magnetism and / or the experimentally verifiable eather theory, by adopting logical fallacies about matter being stacked in imploded areas. Making galaxies reminding of the occult jin and jang symbol with masculine and feminine principals spiraling together.
• The notion of an ever expanding Universe; the arbitrary notion of development, possibly derived from the pereniallist doctrine of the universe being eternal, and the universe being in a constant struggle to develop (synchronized with the humans supposed spiritual growth whilst trying to transcend the supposed chain of reincarnation by occult means).

Some speculation which I find somewhat plausible.

[babayaga]

Atone,
From what I know these are all interesting and valid points. In response to your initial post, it’s funny reading about Mithraism - even the “drama” seems to be “astrotheological.” The bulls horns which Mithras grabs while slaughtering the bull are symbolic of the crescent moon, signaling death/rebirth. The entire cult seems to have been strongly tied to the zodiac and astrological beliefs. Cautes and Cautopates are the torch bearers - the former’s torch points up while the latter’s points down - once again “as above, so below.”

• “The Roman Cult of Mithras” by Manfred Clauss - a good introduction into the Mithraism dating to Roman times.

Meanwhile I’d be curious to know about interaction between the Mithraic cult, Christianity, and neoplatonic thought, as Cautes-Cautopates-Mithras forms a triad, like the One-Nous-Soul was the neoplatonic triad, and the Father-Son-Holy Ghost is the Christian triad (not to mention “On earth as it is in heaven”). While seemingly eschewing or outlawing pagan practices, it remains a strange fact that Mary, the mother of Jesus, can often be seen depicted in Catholic art as having a halo of stars while a crescent moon lies under foot. Also: female - fertility/moon cycle; virgin birth; ascension, etc., it seems Mary/Christ becomes a battle for hierarchy - or tetrarchy, if it’s 1 and 3. Or, pentarchy if it’s 1 and 3-and-1. But this is quite a rabbit-hole, so to stay on topic, it seems that Catholicism absorbed pagan astrotheological beliefs for many centuries and projected them through a Christological lenses, and then, according to authors like Michael Hoffman, this started to be reversed around the Renaissance, with Christ being projected/subverted through increasingly occult/hermetic/astrotheological beliefs.

It’s interesting that the age of Aries was preceded by the age of Taurus. It’s a bit of a generalization, but if Judaism emerged in Aries, this makes sense given all of the mentions of sacrificial rams in the Old Testament, while the “bull cults” go back further to the Bronze Age Egypt/Greek/Minoan, etc.

• “A history of astronomy from Thales to Kepler,” J.L.E. Dreyer, 1953. (Dreyer also wrote a biography on Brahe, and edited other writings/and notes which became the Oper Omnia).

It seems the Greeks got serious about understanding cosmology from a logical, mathematical point of view, and detached the study from the pagan cult beliefs. I don’t know whether I believe this, because it seems that discoveries give rise to beliefs. The Romans benefitted from the spoils of Greek ingenuity, and also adapted/reinvigorated their pagan cults as well as those from Egypt. I read that the various pagans of Europe had planetary gods assigned very similar or identical days of the week as Romans; ex - Mars is associated with “war” in seemingly all cultures. Romans then changed the name and imposed their gods when colonizing.

I think climate propaganda, ‘rising sea levels,’ ‘more intense storms,’ certain sexual and moral agendas and pantheistic/polytheistic agendas (‘synodality’; “Abrahamic” [triad] faiths) may factor into the “Aquarius” symbolism.

[Atonementftw]

Hey Babayaga, I´m glad that you´re so interested in these subjects. Regarding the trinity doctrine, it is not mentioned in the Bible, but was agreed upon by the orthodox church as a result of a series of councils, that also resulted in schisms where the orthodox church was divided into oriental orthodoxy, and later Catholicism apart from eastern orthodoxy. The father, son and holy spirit is only mentioned once in a row in the Bible. It can be found in John 5:7 in all Bibles that is based on the Textus Receptus (most notably the King James Bible in English). But this content is omitted in most Bibles today, because they have been translated from an other manuscript, called the Codex Sinaiticus, by the masonic organization “World Council of Churches.”

The subject of “light” and “stars” is certainly very interesting, I can answer a great deal of questions about religions in general and Christianity in particular. This is one of the subjects that malicious Bible translators have tried to corrupt repeatedly through out the ages. Job 38:7, 2 Peter 1:19 and Revelations 22:16 talks about the morning star in a positive way. (כּוֹכְבֵי בֹקֶר transliterated bōqer kôḵāḇ, φωσφόρος transliterated phōsphoros, and ὀρθρινός ἀστὴρ transliterated as orthrinos astēr taken from the mentioned quotes respectively). There is however a fourth verse worth noting, that talks about an evil spirit that fell from the skies (that in the light of the New Testament is interpreted to be the devil). This entity is named הֵילֵל in the Bible, which transliterates to hêlēl. This word means shining, or *the Shining one," but however does not by any means mean “star.” Bible translators have translated hêlēl to “Lucifer,” (KJV) “morning star” in most modern Bibles. These translation equals the devil with Jesus Christ (compare Revelations 22:16 “I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star). This a serious text corruption of the Bible, that turns christian doctrines up side down. As for the other religions, lights and torches are commonly used in devil worship cults.

The subject of astrological ages is a fascinating one. Ecumenical organizations have tried to apply various occult symbols to Jesus Christ. Among them is the fish, referring to the zodiac sign Pisces. The age of Pisces is about to end in the coming hundreds of years according to conventional astronomy, and have already ended according to the Tychosium-3D model. If Jesus Christ is believed to be a symbol of the zodiac sign Pisces, that implies that this supposed christian age are about to end. This doctrine was promoted by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, 33rd grad Freemason, and leader of the Theosophical Society in the 19th Century. Further, according to classical astrology, every astrological age has a planetary ruler. The planetary ruler of the age of Pisces is Jupiter. Various powerful religious institutions claim that the name of god in the Bible (YHWH) should be pronounced Yahweh. That is very similar to Jove, which means Jupiter. In fact the word for Jupiter in latin; Iuppiter is derived from Iou-father, which is derived from Jove father, which was also the main deity in the Roman Empire. The age that succeed the Age of Pisces is (as you sad) the Age of Aquarius. The planetary ruler of the Age of Aquarius according to classical astrology is Saturn. Saturn is in most mythologies the evil deity, Cronus, Saturn, Moloch and the like. It interestingly starts with the three letters “Sat” and some claim it to be an occult name for Satan. The Egyptian deity Set was also an particularly evil deity that interestingly reminds of “Sat.” I have found strong indications that words like “New Age” and “New World Order” refers to the Age of Aquarius, and according to occult traditions the devil is indeed claimed to be the only deity and the common deity between all religions.

[babayaga]

Atone,

• One comment is that the Douay-Rheims Bible was one of the earliest English language Bibles and predated the KJV (though there were other German and Slavic bibles translated even earlier). I know that KJV was also an “inspired” translation and certain lines/words/excerpts were edited to fit the desired Protestant/royal paradigm. The Douay-Rheims was translated from the St. Jerome’s Latin Vulgate Bible. Does the Codex Sinaiticus precede the Latin Vulgate Bible?
• If you’re right about Rev 22:16, which seems reasonable, then it’s pretty ironic that Rev 22:18-19 blatantly condemns adding or removing anything to/from the book, and that he who does will be cursed and damned! This, just before a parting prayer, ending the Book of Revelations itself, the New Testament, and/or the Bible as a whole. I have to wonder whether that was meant to reflect on the Bible as a whole, and not just Revelation.
• on pisces/fish: I read that the Basque, who had a major corner on the market, were making a killing on salted cod in the middle ages. Hence why fasting with fish on Fridays was promoted by the Church in Medieval ages, a way for the Church bureaucrats and fishing “guilds” to collect peasant silver.
• now that I’m on fish and “pisces,” I’ll also add the number 153, the number of the “vesica piscis,” (153/265), its relation to Christ-as-fish-as-age-of-Pisces, to the miracle of 153 fish in John 21:11, the supposed “153 species of fish in the Sea of Galilee,” the 53, or, 153 Hail Marys contained in 5 or 15 decades of a rosary, 153 the 17th “triangular” number; etc. I’m sure you’ve heard of this, but I was recently reading about it.

-and yes, it does seem like Saturn/Satan/Set/Seth rhyme just a little too much. I have many thoughts on this, but I’ll just say that the Wiki entry states that “Novus Ordo Seclorum” which is found on the US Great Seal, and $1 bill, is taken from Virgil’s Eclogues via colonial aristocrat Charles Thomson.

It’s funny once again that this line in Virgil mentions ushering in a new “golden age,” the reign of Saturn and Apollo, among other Roman gods. It’s funny that the Mass of Pope Paul VI, i.e., “Novus Ordo” liturgy, was promulgated in 1970 during the 2nd Vatican Council. The liturgy was revised in 1975 almost exactly 200 years after the Declaration of Independence in 1776. The “Saturn” of Vatican II appears in 1972 when Pope Paul VI declared “through some crack, the smoke of Satan has entered the Church of God. There is doubt, uncertainty, problems, unrest, dissatisfaction, confrontation.” Paul VI denied being a homosexual in 1976, while Vatican II led to greater ecclesial corruptions and a major exodus among the faithful. Two decades later, Bush I spoke of “new world order” in 1990 during the “Gulf War.”
-anyways, maybe when I get time I’ll do some more digging.

[Atonementftw]

I can answer a great deal about that. The Douay-Rheims Bible was intended as an English direct translation of the Vulgate, and it was no coincidence that these Bibles turn up shortly after the reformation, since before that Bible reading were opposed. Protestant state churches have also opposed and prohibited Bible reading, which lead to massive emigration to America from protestant countries. This opposition is of course very suspect and not in line with what the Bible teaches at all, and a part of broader tendencies of percussion in general against evangelical Christians by major religions institutions. The Vulgate is mainly based on the so called Alexandrian text-type. Codex Sinaiticus is a relatively old manuscript that contains most of the Bible books that is considered Canon today, plus additional text, even to the New Testament (which is not at all common), notably the “Shepard of Hermas” and others.

The Codex Sinaiticus was rediscovered in 1844 in St. Catharine’s Monastery in Egypt. The condition of the text was bad. For instance Genesis and Revelations is gone for the most part. It had also been edited to a large extant. The New Testament is what the Codex Sinaiticus is most famous for, because it is scarce. However the content of the Codex Sinaiticus differs a great deal in its over all content, and misses out on a great deal of content. The book of “the Shepard of Hermas” contains instructions to a certain Clement of Alexandria, to spread the corpus trough out the known world, which is discussed in the text it self, in order to establish the Alexandrian Text-Type Bibles everywhere. The Alexandrian text-type manuscript compared to the Textus Receptus manuscript family is very very few, and there is reason to believe that the few manuscripts like Codex Vaticanus A and Codex Vaticanus B that derives from Alexandria, even though they are old, are just copies of an edited manuscript.

In historical research historians generally need lots of sources that indicate the plausibility of a hypotheses, and there is not much that indicate that the Codex Sinaitcus does the Bible justice. On the contrary ancient sources that quotes the Bible matches way better with the Textus Receptus, also known as the Byzantine text-type or Majority Text, of which there is way more manuscripts in a much better condition, that to a overwhelming extant agrees regarding content with each other and with the King James Bible for instance. This manuscript family is the most widely spread through out the history, and have generally been considered to contain the canonical Bible content of most churches. There is several ancient manuscripts that generally have the same content as this manuscript family. In the English language there is many Bible versions that is older then the King James Bible that agrees with this manuscript family as well, but the English language at the time is generally hard to understand today, even for native English speakers. The history of the Alexandrian text-type is that it was written down in the city of Alexandria in Egypt, known for it´s vast political power, and it´s mix of cultures with buddists, Judaism, Greek religion, Babylonian religion, Egyptian religion and more. It was also known for it´s occultism, mystery cults and secret societies, such as the “Therapeuts.” The manuscript is believed to have been spread in 50 copies, but however only survived in St. Catharine’s Monastery near Mount Sinai, and in the Vatican. It took up until the reformation before the Catholic Church declared the Alexandrian text-type to be the canonical Bible, since few people where literate and wealthy enough to get a hold of Bibles, and reading the Bible was generally opposed by the Catholic Church, especially the Majority text manuscript family.

The Vulgate is based on the Alexandrian text-type, but since it was decided during the Council of Nicaea what books would and would not fit into the canonical Bible, it contains mainly the books that is largely agreed upon today among churches in general. It contains come “apocrypha” called “the Deuterocanonical Scriptures” that was written in arameic in a middle period between the age where the old- and the new testament was written down. It is however not uncommon that Bibles contains these Bible books. But the Vulgate have added some material, like the adulteress woman story in John 8:1-11, and the post resurrection story in Mark 16:9-20 that is not in the Codex Sinaiticus. They are howerver in the Majority text, and might have been added at some point. (Modern Bibles usually omits these to stories because new Bibles are based upon the Codex Sinaiticus). It is a somewhat messy subject to deal with, but I can recommend many free videos and books about the subject if you would like to delve into it further. The reason that the Codex Sinaiticus is used is because it is in harmony with various other world religions in a way that the majority text is not, and that fits into the ecumenical aspiration towards a one world religion. Most bibles from the late 19th Century and on wads is based on the Codex Sinaiticus, and are also hard to understand due to obscure renderings and some times even content that is nowhere to be found in ancient scriptures. This is somewhat of topic, but if we are to understand what these text says about for instance astrotheology and astrology, we arguably nead to study authentic material.

[Atonementftw]

Thank you for the other references. I am familiar with some of the things you point out. Regarding astrotheology and astrology, on thing that have caught my interest recently is the cult of Inanna from ancient Sumer. Inanna was believed to be a virgin fertility goddess, that was venerated and worshiped with temple prostitution and sex magic rituals. The cult has equivalents in countries all over Eurasia. Inanna became Anahita in ancient Persia, Atitti in ancient India, Ishtar in ancient Babylon, Astarte of ancient Phoenicia, Ashteroth of ancient Canaan, Ashera of ancient Judea, Eostre of Germanic countries, Aphrodite of ancient Greece and Venus from ancient Rom. They generally bear strong similarities etymologically, and are associated with the moon Venus. In ancient cultures they understood astronomical objects in a qualitative way, and did therefore associate Venus with paleness, femininity, and moons in general with menstruation, and for some reason they often subscribed virginity to goddesses in general, which seams to having to do with respectability, even though they where often depicted in a promiscuous fashion, naked, big breasted and as a symbol for sexual magic along with war and political power among other things. Venus is often called the “morning star” in non-Christian religions. Some believe the name of the feast day of “Easter” to be derived from Eostre.

[Atonementftw]

An occult interpretation of the fish symbol is that it symbolizes the female reproductive organ. This symbol can be seen in the road net of the Washington D.C. Monument surrounding the great phallic Obelisk, and was common in ancient cultures.

[stateless3]

Hi Atonementftw,
They no longer even bother to deny the entire sh*tshow is made up.
“A cursory look at history reveals that propaganda and disinformation are nothing new, and even the habit of denying entire nations and creating fake countries has a long pedigree”
Yuval Noah Harari. For people like Harari controlling the narrative is all that counts. Truth means nothing to these people…

[babayaga]

Atone,
all I can further say is “yep,” and thank you for some more in-depth information on the Bible/biblical codices - that has always interested me. It’s pretty clear that western or eastern religions and other ideologies have a cosmology/cosmogony. I am somewhat skeptical of the Dead Sea Scrolls/Gnostic Gospels and apocrypha - is there any good evidence that these discoveries were forged or fake? To think that the bible was not available to the public for 1500 years into the religion of Christ is always somewhat shocking; makes me wonder how many other texts are still kept secret. Easter/Eostre connection is very interesting, and as was mentioned under other topics on the forum, churches were also used as astronomical observatories from the 1700s onward, supposedly in order to correctly determine/monitor the date of Easter and probably other holy days. And of course I’ve heard it argued the parallels between the Osiris myth and Jesus. I read about Ishtar/Inanna when finding the the eight-pointed star/wreaths in the movie Eyes Wide Shut are associated with that cult; the plot also takes place leading up to Christmas, but I wonder if the cult of Ishtar was celebrated at the winter solstice or spring equinox like Eostre?

[Atonementftw]

Yes, it is a sad story. Some things I find notable is that Church history teaches that the early Christians where divided into two, that is commonly referred to protoorthodox and gnostic sects, and that the protoorthodox won, and proclaimed the gnostics (such as Marcion, Valeninus and the like) to be “heretics,” by church fathers and the like (Irenaus and Ignatious among others). However Clement of Alexandria that I mentioned before, that supposedly wrote the first esoteric christian work (that is contradictory in and of it self, since the Bible rejects occultism) called Stromata, claims that there is an elite group of Christians (which also contradicts the new testament) called “gnostics.” Clement is regarded as a Saint by the Orthodox Church to this day, while he was omitted from the Marthyrology in the Catholic Church during the Renaissance due to controversies surrounding his teachings.

These is one group that is usually not counted among the various gnostic sects, called the hermetics. The hermetics however mentions gnosis over and over in their writings, and arguably regard gnosis as a means of salvation. Clement of Alexandria claimed that he had been initiated by masters in a authoritative linage, and that their secret teachings where the “Hermetica.” He thus proclaim 42 hermetic works, of which approximately half remains to this day, to be orthodox (that is to say pure teachings in line with orthodoxy). Gnostics thus started to conspire against the christian church. Notably Origin of Alexandria is believed to be a disciple of Clement, and Eusebius is believed to be a disciple of Origin.

Later Church authorities like pseudo Dionysus the Areopagite, John Crysostom and Maximus the Confessor for instance repeatedly refer to secret initiation and / or use hermetic doctrines rather than Christian doctrines. This disgusted christians in western Europe to such an extant that the Frankish Empire rejected the Orthodox Church and the emerging papal state. In fact western Europe was already Christian when the Catholic Church rose out of the ashes from the collapsed West Roman Empire. However little is known about the beliefs of the various christian peoples of Western Europe prior to the occupation of the Catholic-Orthodox Church (which was both one and the same up until 1054 CE). What remains, among other things, is their Bibles that was based on the Majority text, and a great deal of religious propaganda, claiming these groups to having promoted the so called “Arian heresy.” Arianism is the belief that Jesus was just a mere mortal, just like for instance islamic scriptures postulates. However one main feature of the Alexandian text-type Bibles is that they have changed all passages that claims Jesus Christ to be of divine descent. That is two interesting examples that shows that major Church institutions did not fight gnosticism or arianism, but rather projected their beliefs on the ones that they where prosecuting. The point is that we have been lied to about the western worlds supposed Christian agenda, because Churches through out the western world does in fact oppose Christianity. The same goes for most protestant denominations that occurred after the renaissance era. Marthin Luther was likely a Rosicrucian, Calvin a freemason, and the newer protestant denominations like the Jehovas Wittnesses and the Mormons is founded by freemasons as well.

Interesingly hermeticism (named after the supposed god-man Hermes Trismegistus) was a synthesis between astrology, astrotheology, alkemy and neoplatonism, and is sometimes claimed to be the origin of Kabbalah and Theosophy. While most mystery cults of the past are largely unknown for us today, the Hermetica is deamed to be a “lesemysterium” or a text which initiates the reader into a “mystery.” That is to say much like the devilish serpent in Eden claims to have the power of granting humans with divinity by means of occult teaching, so to does the Hermetica.

The Hermetica is well preserved. The most influential hermetic work is the Corpus Hermeticum (4th Century CE) is like a minor library and contains 17 books. The Corpus Hermeticum was one of the most spread works during the renaissance era, and have influenced the nutworks favorite Friedrisch Hegel along with the Jesuits, the Freemasons and other secret societies.

[Atonementftw]

Thank you. Regarding the Dead Sea Scrolls, I see a clear similarity between various secret societies of the past. The Pythagoreans are probably the oldest one that I know of. They had community rules, that reminds very much of Monasteries, where people where not aloud to own stuff, and had to obey the agenda of the community. The group that is widely believed to have written the Dead Sea Scrolls is called the Essenes, and they claim the same thing in the Dead Sea Scrolls; that their members are not aloud to own much, strict food rules, strict rules about religious doctrines and of religions practice. There is also other famous groups from that time, like the Egyptian Therapeuts, the mystery cults like the Orphic mystery cult and the Eleusinian Mysteries cult. Some have proposed influence from buddism regarding monasticism. To me It is not very different to the Agenda 21 idea about “you will own nothing and be happy.” Regarding Christianity, new Bible versions have been changed in order to oppose people property and ownership.

I don´t think the Dead Sea Scrolls is made up, but I do know that the usual suspects like the Rockerfellers and the Vatican for instance have been very secret about what these texts countains, and have been promoting translations, and seams to have been hiding them from the general public.

Regarding Easter, I have learnt that Ishtar was celebrated on that particular date. But according to chatGPT these various goddesses that I mentioned was celebrated on a great variety of seasons and dates. I don´t know.